Warhammer 40k Dark Eldar Tactics
A typical Dark Eldarhas to fight through multiple rounds of Covenant/former Covenant warriors. Depending on if the Incubus gets healed after each round, which is usually the case in these type of threads IIRC, then he can and should be able to clear the gauntlet up to round 5 with minimal issues, but from there on it becomes a bit tricky.Round 6 has too many foes to be beaten by a lone Incubus without access to a ranged weapon. If he had one, then I would give him a 1 out of 10 to win, also having a ranged weapon would also increase his chances for the following rounds by a good margin in my opinion. (Yes I am aware they don't usually wield ranged weaponry)Round 7 is quite easy actually. Though if he gets hit once he is dead, but that goes both ways.Round 8 is. In my opinion a 50/50, due to the Incubus having to kill them one after the other and thus risking getting hit once he manages to kill one of the Pair. 7 out of 10 if he had a ranged weapon.Round 9 is easier again, though still a 50/50 due to being outnumbered.
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Once more 7 out of 10 if he had a ranged weapon.Rounds 10&11 are at best 3 out of 10 for the Incubus. 4 maybe 5 out of 10 with access to a ranged weapon. Carefully re-read the conditions of the battle, so I will rewrite my comment.
I usually praise the Covenant over space marines and imperial forces because they do not have what the Spartans have. It does not matter if the space marine surpasses one-on-one in battle, but it is not intended for a covenant war. The Spartan is, in fact, a smaller version of Eversor, able to jump and bend, like a serpent, dressed in space naval armor. Space Marines should not receive damage from a very weak enemy, and kill a very strong, albeit at the cost of his life. That's why Tau tactics work so well against them.
There are no very weak enemies in the Covenant, and few very strong ones. Incubus, like Eversor. Incubus tactics do not take damage from everyone from such enemies as Space Marines or die, and in each particular battle he will surpass the Covenant.1st round: 9 out of 10 I give this victory to the Incubus.
Their tactics bore many years to avoid the fire of entire regiments of the Imperial Guard. The only defeat in my opinion is not knowing that the elite have shields and how the grunts work. 9,9/10 incubus.2nd round: The Kig-Yars are as fast as the Spartans. I think they will be a little slower than the incubus. Their speed is unlikely to compensate for the speed of the extra unggy (they have too fast finger reaction for this). Give them three more Kig-Yars so that this is an honest battle. The major has, however, an energy sword and he can possess it very well.
9/10 is the victory of the incubus.3rd round: Brutus are almost as strong as Space Marines, however, their speed is much lower. For an Incubus, they will not be a problem, just because he is used to killing space marines.
Incubus win 9,9/104th round: 5.5 / 10 for the elite. Their overall response will be higher than that of an incubus, and the major has a good command of a plasma sword. Weapon rate will be too high. If an incubus fails to take advantage of stealth in stealth, it does not expect anything but defeat.5th round: One zealot has about the same reaction rate as the Spartan. Years of preparation, and strength.
He still does not reach the rate of incubation. His main advantage over the Spartans was the sword and surprise.
9/10, that is the victory of Incubus. Replace him with a field marshal to make it fair.6th round: Elite spec-ops take quite easily because of the amount of plasma, as well as the skills that will fall on the incubus. They will be able to use their reaction to compensate for their superiority in incubation speed. 5/10 that they will do it WITHOUT a loss.7th round: 9/10 in favor of Incubus.
Seriously, who told you that using brutes would be a good idea?8th round: He can definitely jump like a Spartan, but has no shields. Most likely he could walk through the rows of mgalekgolo, like an assassin Eversor, until they fill the whole space with plasma.9th round: Perhaps one warior of the Light of Sanghelios would be able to resist them. However, I think this is a 7/10 fight in favor of the elites, since it is harder for them to work as a team.10th round: win 6/10.11th round: Atrioks defeated three Spartans, who are likely faster than incubi.
Clear victory.Edit:There was only 1 Spartan and a man who generally killed a hunter in the melee. Perhaps no one tried. However, the sword incubus, can get stuck in their armor. In his place, I would kill the hunters with my bare hands.
A Dark Eldar's strength and reflexes are actually superior to that of a Craftworld Eldar - pict-captures of the had to be slowed to one-fourth speed in order to follow the movements of individual as they slaughtered civilians. Stories of Dark Eldar dodging shots from and kicking back into the enemy's ranks are common, and within the gladiatorial arenas a single is more than a match for any ten human warriors.
Dark Eldar senses are also sharper, allowing them to see their enemies perfectly well even during pitch darkness. A Dark Eldar's strength and reflexes are actually superior to that of a Craftworld Eldar - pict-captures of the had to be slowed to one-fourth speed in order to follow the movements of individual as they slaughtered civilians.
Stories of Dark Eldar dodging shots from and kicking back into the enemy's ranks are common, and within the gladiatorial arenas a single is more than a match for any ten human warriors. Dark Eldar senses are also sharper, allowing them to see their enemies perfectly well even during pitch darkness. Click to expand.They're literally driving Grox as Cattle from Horse back.
Ignoring the obvious allusion to the Old West - particularly the northern cattle drives - inherent in the imagery, the mere fact that they're driving cattle makes them, by definition, cowboys. For weapons he has nothing more than a sword, a dagger/bowie knife and a simple bolt action rifle.
For all intents and purposes, you could swap out the sword for a Colt and the Rifle for a winchester and he'd be largely unnoticed in a Western. Click to expand.It's standard Kabalite pirates, not incubi, and in a sort of general combat, rather than any sort of even scenario.
But obviously your random Eldar isn't unstoppably superior to your random human assuming both are trained fighters. Just at an advantage.For my two cents, the Incubi's chances of success are pretty heavily tied to the number of guns it's facing here. It should go straight through one or two Elites, even elite Elites, with swords, but half a dozen grunts with rifles are a very different problem. I agree with most people saying that the incubus clears up to round 5 with little difficulty. It should be noted however that unlike most Eldar whose armour is weaker to allow for better agility (relatively speaking anyway) Incubus armour is noted as being comparable in actual durability to regular power armour.Going through the more disputed rounds.6th round: Two armed with a plasma sword and plasma rifle respectively leading sixarmed with plasma pistols and one Fuel Rod Cannon.They certainly have the firepower to bring the Incubus down. I believe the Incubus could take down two spec ops elites, so it really just depends on where the unngoy fuel rod cannon is and if they decide to run or not.
Pretty much a toss up, favour in the halo side if its out in the open with a good line of fire.7th round: A armed with a gravity hammer.I see the Incubus taking this pretty handily. Sure the grav hammer would do damage, but considering we see even spartans dancing around cheiftens I don't see why the Incubus couldn't do the same. Considering their usage of powerswords, the Brute will be dead pretty fast if he can't land a hit (likely in the first 'pass' as it were) and the chances of him also being able to do so against his more agile opponent aren't too great.8th round: A pair of Hunters.I would give this to the hunters pretty much every time. Out in the open they can just hose down giant areas with their cannons (they can fire in a stream IIRC) and the Incubus is going to die.9th round: A pair of armed with plasma swords.The Incubus again probably. Unless elite honour guards have feats of showing up spartans aren't they pretty much comparable to the upper echelons of the elite hierarchy (zealots, spec ops and such)?10th round: Arbiter armed with two plasma swords.I know the arbiter is meant to be a highly skilled swordsman, but haven't read any EU material mentioning him. Not sure as to how this fight would play out, I'll only say that the incubus likely has a speed advantage, and definitely a weapon advantage (ergonomically speaking a glaive/two handed sword is going to be out ranging thel here).11th round:Atriox can win if fighting competently due to his grav mace or whatever, if he jobs like he does against the spartans he is dead though (power weapons and he doesn't seem to have shields).
Click to expand.Astartes are rather too unreliable to be taken as some sort of ruler to establish that a character is fast, as we can see by the several times regular humans don't get blitzed by them in battle with some even beating the Astartes.This is compounded by the usual sword vs gun ordeal, where not only do you need faster reactions than your opposition, ghou need to be incredibly, or lucky, to be able to cover the distance between you both in the time that it takes your opponent to aim and pull the trigger.
Hey all, Chandler here with the first in our new Basic Tactics series of posts for Warhammer 8th edition. The Basic Tactics series will be a group of articles covering the basics of competitive play in Warhammer 40k 8th Edition.
These are basic concepts for newbies into the game or those just starting their journey into tournament 40k to help improve their experience. First up is the concept of list design.There is this notion that list design in Warhammer 40k is basically a mini-game; a game within the game. Let me state up front that lists are important in this game. Having a well designed list can give you an edge and the best players at events are often using the best lists they can build. Too often we put a bit too much emphasis on Army Lists, however, and not enough on player skill. You can go online to a variety of sources from Reddit, to Facebook, to Best Coast Pairings and pull down lists of tournament winners.
But the list will only carry you so far. Your skill as a player is what will make the list work or not. You can pull the meanest nastiest net list used by some of the top tier players in the game, but if you have a limited understanding of how it works, you will struggle to use it effectively. Set Realistic GoalsBefore approaching the list design phase of entering a competitive event, take a moment and ask yourself; what are my goals for this event? Is your goal to win the event?
Is your goal to try and win Best Painted or Best Sportsman (if so then list design most likely isn't that important to you.) If your goal is to win, and you know the meta you are going into, then do you have the tools to beat those lists? As of October 2018, the best armies in the game are any of the Eldar varieties, and along the way you can expect to face Chaos and Imperial Knights, just on the whole, if your goal is to get to the top table. Can you beat those armies? And can you do so and also beat the random Tyranids, Necrons, or Tau army you may play along the way?Use What You KnowWe all have at least one army in our collection that we know extremely well. Perhaps it is because it is our favorite army lore wise, or perhaps it just fits our play style.
But we can pick that army up and usually always do well with it. Generally speaking, unless you play Warhammer 40k 3-4 times a week with various armies, you're going to have maybe one or two armies in your collection that are tournament capable.The idea of using what you know hearkens back to the earlier point of players getting net lists and not understanding how they work. There are lots of nuances and intricacies in this game and you can't simply rely on a net list to get you through without understanding those nuances.
You might be a Chaos player and see that a top tier tourney player won a Major or GT using Dark Eldar, but you don't know squat about Dark Eldar. Chances are, if you just go out and buy that army to use in tournaments without understanding the army, you will not do well. Stick to what you know and more importantly what you like. The reality for most is that you won't ever win a Grand Tournament or Major event. But you can still go to these events, take a good list, and compete, which is what most of us want to do. What is Your Army Good At Doing?The idea of a take all comer's list in 8th edition is often a recipe for disaster. I know that sounds crazy, but you don't necessarily have to have an answer to everything you might face.
For example, if you run Blood Angels, a marine army that does well in assault primarily, do you need to run 3 Devastator squads? Probably not. If you are Ultramarines, however, and you have access to Guilliman, then you might reconsider that notion.Is your army good at assault? Or is it perhaps good at out maneuvering the enemy (Eldar)? Maybe it's incredibly powerful in the psychic phase? Key in on the aspects your army can capitalize on and use them to their fullest. What Are the Missions?This is probably the most important (and most often overlooked) aspect of list design.
If you are attending an event, you need to review the missions carefully. Most ITC events use the ITC Champions Mission Packet. If that is the case, look at the missions and try and design around those parameters.
You know, for example, in those missions you need to be able to hold more objectives than your opponent every round, kill more units than your opponent every round, and build to deny as many secondaries as you can for your opponent, or make them incredibly difficult to achieve, while having answers to scoring secondaries yourself. That sounds like a lot to soak in, I know. But these are things the top players are considering in list design and they are things you should be considering as well. Core Concepts of Every ListThere are several core concepts of every list in 8th edition that are, in my opinion, critical to success in every list, regardless of the faction:1. Board control - Can your list control the board?
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Why is that important? I will go more in depth on that in a future article, but the basic concept is, can you control the neutral zone and your own deployment zone to prevent enemy units from jumping on you quickly or denying where your opponent can go in Movement/Assault? Every single successful list in the game has some measure of board control.2.
Objective Campers and Grabbers- You need units to both hold objectives, hopefully while hiding in your backfield, and go and take objectives. Every army has units that are good at these. And you need them in your list to be successful.3. Character Protection - Characters can't be targeted in shooting as long as there are non-character units, or characters with more than 10+ starting wounds in front of them. This is often critical in your success as these characters often provide excellent counter punch, aura buffs, and other powerful abilities. Smash captains aside, as these are often just suicide units anyway, most of your characters you want to be able to get into position in the middle of the game to do their damage. In order to do that, you need to be able to protect them with either durable screens (think Ogryns) or forward deploying units that can hide (think Nurglings).
Being able to protect your characters will likely be vital to your success.4. Synergy - Every unit in your list has a purpose in the game. Be it characters buffing them as they move up and take objectives, or maybe just serving as screens to important units, or perhaps coming in to outflank the enemy in Turn 2 or 3.
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Your list should have synergy and each unit selection should have a role and purpose in your army list.Wrapping it UpMake no mistake, list design is very important to performing well at events. But when putting together your list, make sure you understand what your army can do, what missions you will be playing and how to build towards them, and understand the core concepts of successful lists in 8th edition. Hopefully you found this article helpful.
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Stay tuned for more basic tactics articles coming in the future.